Curse

Its Rampage · Dec 26, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

SKILLS:
Asuran Scan
Fox's Promise
Jagged Strike
Golden Fang Strike
Death Blossom
Critical Agility
Critical Defenses
Mystic Regeneration

ATTRIBUTES:
10+2 Dagger Mastery
12+1 Critical Strikes
8 Earth Prayers

EQUIPMENT:
Full Surivor, Minor Critical Strikes, Minor Dagger Mastery, Superior Vigor.
+1 Dagger Mastery Headpiece.
Max Zealous 15>50 Daggers of Enchanting.

Truegen · Dec 26, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

It's certainly solid enough...seems to me like Fox's Promise is a wasted elite in PvE however, since you'll encounter very few enemies that you'd need it for

azlnick · Dec 26, 2008, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Considering you can just bring a hero with anti block, I would replace Fox's Promise with Seeping Wound or Flashing Blades because then you can have some decent defence with Flashing Blades and more degen and a hex for Seeping Wound which is 1337 for discord teams : )

snaek · Dec 26, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

fox's promise is pretty bad...
but seeping wound and flashing blades r worse

Bobby2 · Dec 26, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Overly defensive.

Its Rampage · Dec 26, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Any suggestions to fix?

Should I make it,
SKILLS:
Asuran Scan
Jagged Strike
Golden Fang Strike
Death Blossom
Moebius Strike
Critical Agility
Critical Defenses
Mystic Regeneration

ATTRIBUTES:
10+2 Dagger Mastery
12+1 Critical Strikes
8 Earth Prayers

EQUIPMENT:
Full Radiant, Minor Critical Strikes, Minor Dagger Mastery, Superior Vigor.
+1 Dagger Mastery Headpiece.
Max Zealous 15>50 Daggers of Fortitude.

poasiods · Dec 26, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

How about Moebius strike for Moebius + Death Blossom chain?
Do you need full radiant set-up? Seems like having 13 in crit strikes and zealous dagger would be enough to keep your energy up.

Bobby2 · Dec 26, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Basic frame:

[empty][empty][death [email protected]][moebius [email protected]][empty][empty][critical agility][empty]

What I'm using atm:

[black mantis [email protected]][wild [email protected]][death [email protected]][moebius [email protected]][save yourselves][critical [email protected]][critical agility][asuran scan]
(Swapping SY! out for whatever's handy if someone else is covering it)

People's preferences regarding Lead/Off-hand attacks differ but [jagged strike] is just awful. Let it die somewhere.

Also, [critical defenses] and [mystic regeneration] only help if
A - you overextend
B - your Monk(s) suck
C - you've made the foolish decision of running Radiants

Xx Da Best Xx · Dec 26, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

For everyday PvE, i usually use this...
[Way of the Assassin][Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Asuran Scan]["I Am The Strongest!"]["By Urals Hammer!"][Optional]

High dmg output. You could replace WotA with a dif elite and put in Critical agility.

For the optional...You could put in Brutal Weapon for even more dmg, or a res.

ac1inferno · Dec 26, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

[build prof=A/any crit=12+1 dagger=12+1+1][Unsuspecting Strike][Golden Fang Strike][Death Blossom][optional][Critical Eye][Fox's promise][Critical Agility][Resurrection Signet][/build]
* [[Dash]
* [[Wild [email protected]]
* [[Critical [email protected]]
* [[Assassin's Remedy (PvE) @14]

* Survivor armor.
* Zealous/Vampiric Daggers of Fortitude.

Super Igor · Dec 26, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Me doesnt liek your build, best thing a sin can have in pve is MS/DB so stick to it, thats first thing. If you go against blocking stuff and enchies take a shattersin which is very powerful in that case and is unblockable too but everything other than that, scythesins, swordsins, hammersins, sins with wota or FP are pretty poor.

Unreal Havoc · Dec 26, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

[build prof=A/any crit=12+1 dagger=12+1+1][Unsuspecting Strike][Golden Fang Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Wild Blow][Critical Eye][Critical Agility][Resurrection Signet][/build]

You can swap Critical Eye for Critical Strike for more on demand energy management if you need it.

In areas where stance blocking isn't an issue take Save Yourselves instead of Wild Blow.

Super Igor · Dec 27, 2008, 11:00 AM // 11:00

no [save yourselves!] D:?!?!?!

Unreal Havoc · Dec 27, 2008, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Paragons are great.

Also you really should learn to read.

Super Igor · Dec 27, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I was so shocked I havent seen you wrote something under it, omigash as if you always have a paragon handy in your pocket no you dont [wild blow] over [save yourselves!] is silly and [wild strike] > stances.

Unreal Havoc · Dec 27, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Well I have a Paragon so...

Also I prefer not having to restart my chain to remove a stance in areas full of stance blocking, and Wild Blow nets me back like 5 energy so it technically costs me 0 energy to use compared to 8 energy to remove a stance using Golden Fox Strike -> Wild Strike, taking the use of zealous daggers into account.

It's all preference at the end of the day, I care less what others think about something that works quite well for me.

Also I can say screw Ressurection Signets, I'm a glass cannon anyway, and take both Wild Blow and Save Yourselves. The loss of adrenaline is easily made up quickly enough. My guild is not so bad that they can't live without +100al for a few seconds.

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Super Igor · Dec 27, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

Well I have a Paragon so...

and how are you using him and your sin at once ?????

Quote:

Also I prefer not having to restart my chain to remove a stance in areas full of stance blocking, and Wild Blow nets me back like 5 energy so it technically costs me 0 energy to use compared to 8 energy to remove a stance using Golden Fox Strike -> Wild Strike, taking the use of zealous daggers into account.

Stuff doesnt use blocking stances right away more like when they are almost dead so it doesnt matter, actually fox+wild is much faster way to finish it off in that case thanks to +damage.

Quote:

It's all preference at the end of the day, I care less what others think about something that works quite well for me.

[mending]

Quote:

Also I can say screw Ressurection Signets, I'm a glass cannon anyway, and take both Wild Blow and Save Yourselves. The loss of adrenaline is easily made up quickly enough. My guild is not so bad that they can't live without +100al for a few seconds.

screw res sigs!!!!!! D:<

+100al helps I'd rather have that heck I dont care about uberfast stance removal or deepwpund much when I pve wtf as if 100 damage on one target once would matter as opposed to aggroing shizloads of stuff and kieling them swiftly.

Unreal Havoc · Dec 27, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Igor

and how are you using him and your sin at once ?????

I don't. If we need +100al on the whole party I'll be useful and take my Paragon as it can also spread other incredible partywide damage mitigation, aswell as party wide damage buffs.

Quote:

Stuff doesnt use blocking stances right away more like when they are almost dead so it doesnt matter, actually fox+wild is much faster way to finish it off in that case thanks to +damage.

So restart your chain on a near dead target then restart it again on the next target, great way to waste your damage potential when you can just Wild Blow -> back into double strike damage spam from where you left off.

Quote:

[mending]

No valid point here. If you want to use Mending, be my guest.

Quote:

screw res sigs!!!!!! D:<

Still can't read?

Quote:

+100al helps I'd rather have that heck I dont care about uberfast stance removal or deepwpund much when I pve wtf as if 100 damage on one target once would matter as opposed to aggroing shizloads of stuff and kieling them swiftly.

Good for you.

MisterT69 · Dec 27, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

[unsuspecting strike][wild strike][death blossom][moebius strike][critical eye][critical agility][critical defenses][save yourselves]
That's what I typically run on my sin. Main reason I have jagged instead of a weaker skill is because I would rather have the target die faster (monk for ex) than drawing it out for the AoE, because it's not too hard to restart the moebisu chain which takes 4 seconds total to reset lol.